mark is at it again, and that is cool, it's his message he shares about men being men, and he's consistent with that message.. apparently he's curbed his message a little from john hagee (tip to phil for that one). i can agree that men need to responsible, that's cool with me, but being responsible is very different from an implied breadwinner role with wife at home. i'd say there are other ways of raising men and the machismo attitude can be left at the door. as for stay at home dad, i can recognize that every child needs a mother, i've run into this all too often with a kids at camp whom don't care for my comfort. but being in a household where we both make about equal and erin's role with her family business it may be more a reality that i become more the stay at home dad. just for the record too, i'd be pretty darn good at it. i already have the 4 legged kids helping out around the house.